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.410 vs 20 gauge for turkey: which small gauge should you actually buy?

Both will kill a gobbler inside 40 yards with tungsten shot. They ask for very different things in return. One gives a young shooter almost no recoil and almost no margin; the other is the gauge a conservation agency actually recommends for kids.

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The contenders

Side by side

  • Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 20 Gauge

    20 gauge: the TSS tube to start with

    Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 20 Gauge

    Turkey choke7.2out of 10

    Carlson's TSS tube in 20 ga, a 0.555 in exit (0.565 in for Invector Plus) for 5 thread systems including Winchester/Browning Invector/Mossberg 500 and Remington, optimized for Federal Heavyweight TSS and backed by a lifetime warranty.

    $49.33Amazon

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  • Kick's Gobblin' Thunder Turkey Choke Tube, 20 Gauge

    20 gauge: ported, rated for lead and TSS

    Kick's Gobblin' Thunder Turkey Choke Tube, 20 Gauge

    Turkey choke8.7out of 10

    The 20 ga version of Kick's extended, ported 17-4 stainless turkey tube, rated by Kick's for lead, TSS and other non-toxic loads, in 0.560 or 0.570 in exits across 12 thread versions.

    $52.90Amazon

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  • Carlson's Choke TubesNo image

    .410: the TSS tube with two lengths

    Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, .410

    Turkey choke7.0out of 10

    Carlson's .410-only TSS tube at 0.385 in for its Long Invector thread (which Carlson's says fits the Browning BPS/Citori, CVA Scout, Henry and Mossberg 500) and Short Invector thread (Stevens 301), plus a Beretta/Benelli Mobil version, optimized for Federal Heavyweight TSS.

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  • Indian Creek Black Diamond Turkey Choke Tube, .410

    .410: five thread models named

    Indian Creek Black Diamond Turkey Choke Tube, .410

    Turkey choke7.0out of 10

    Indian Creek's ported, hand-tightened .410 turkey tube, offered at 0.385 and 0.390 in across five thread models that between them name the Stevens 301, Mossberg 500, CVA Scout, Henry, Rossi, TriStar and Yildiz, rated for lead and hybrid heavy loads from #2 through #10 shot.

    $98.99Amazon

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Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 20 Gauge
Product photo from Amazon, shown for the top pick on this page.

What you actually give up

This is a payload argument, not a velocity argument. A smaller bore carries fewer pellets, and pellets in a 10 in circle are the whole game in turkey hunting, because you are aiming at a head and neck rather than a body.

What rescued both of these gauges is density, not the guns. Apex Ammunition publishes Tungsten Super Shot at 18.1 g/cc against lead at 11.34 g/cc, and the NWTF puts the same comparison at 56 percent denser than lead. That density is why a pellet small enough to fit a useful number into a .410 hull still carries enough energy at 40 yards to break a gobbler's neck. Lead in a .410 does not get there, and that is not a close call. The full argument is in TSS vs lead turkey loads.

The 20 gauge has the same tungsten option and more room to use it, which is the entire comparison in one sentence. The .410 needs TSS to be viable; the 20 gauge is viable with lead and better with TSS.

The published pellet counts

The number worth knowing is the one the NWTF publishes in its own work on the .410 for turkeys: TSS .410 guns averaging 125 to 150 pellets in a 10 in circle at 40 yards. That clears the long-standing 100-pellet benchmark that turkey hunters have used for decades, and it is why the .410 stopped being a joke in this context.

Recoil, and the shooter in front of you

Most people asking this question are asking it on behalf of a young hunter, and the answer there is well established. Missouri's Department of Conservation, in its own guidance on turkey hunting equipment, points young and smaller-framed hunters at 20 gauges. That is a state agency recommending the 20, not a magazine.

The .410 recoils less still, and for a genuinely recoil-sensitive shooter that is a real advantage: a flinch costs more birds than a gauge does. But the trade is a tighter yardage leash and a shorter list of shells and chokes to buy. If you are kitting out a kid, read best youth turkey shotguns alongside this page, and put the saved money into a patterning session and a seat they will sit still in.

One practical note that has nothing to do with ballistics: a youth-sized gun that fits is worth more than a gauge choice. A 20 gauge that is too long in the stock will get shot badly.

Choke choice is not equal

This is the part buyers underestimate. The 20 gauge has a deep bench of turkey tubes; the .410 has a short one, and the first question is whether your .410 is even threaded for a choke at all — many single-shots and older guns are not, which we cover in .410 for turkey hunting.

  • 20 gauge: our registry carries TSS-rated and lead-rated tubes from Carlson's, Kick's, Indian Creek and Primos, in multiple constrictions per thread. The ranking is in best 20 gauge turkey chokes.
  • .410: fewer makers, fewer threads, and usually one or two exit diameters. The ranking is in best .410 turkey chokes.

Fewer constrictions means fewer chances to fix a pattern without buying different shells. With a 20 gauge you can chase a tighter core by changing the tube; with a .410 you are more likely to be changing the load.

Four tubes, two gauges

Two tubes per gauge, read off the makers' own pages. Note how the published rated-load lines differ: that is the single most important column on this table if you intend to shoot tungsten.

The 20 gauge pair. Carlson's TSS tube is sold specifically for tungsten; Kick's rates lead, TSS and other non-toxic loads in one tube.
The .410 pair. Both are TSS-era tubes; Indian Creek names five thread models between the Stevens 301, Mossberg 500, CVA Scout, Henry, Rossi, TriStar and Yildiz.

Which to buy

If you are buying one gun for a first turkey season, buy the 20 gauge. It has the payload margin, the choke choice, the load choice and an agency recommendation behind it for young shooters, and nothing about it is unpleasant to shoot with modern turkey loads. The 20-against-12 version of this question, which is the next one most people ask, is in 20 gauge vs 12 gauge for turkey.

If recoil is the real constraint, the .410 is a legitimate turkey gun now in a way it was not fifteen years ago — on three conditions, all of them non-negotiable: tungsten shot, a .410 turkey choke, and a range ceiling set by your own paper target rather than by a box claim. Mississippi State Extension's patterning publication is the procedure; ours is in how to pattern a turkey gun.

One last thing that applies to both: a small gauge makes your setup matter more. Decoys at a known distance and a bird that has to walk inside 30 yards do more for a .410 hunter than any choke, and that is a free upgrade — see how to set up turkey decoys and where to aim on a turkey.

Legal means are a state question as well as a ballistics one — the East Zone in Texas, for instance, is limited to shotgun and lawful archery equipment. The zone-by-zone rules are in turkey hunting in Texas.

In detail

The contenders, in full

Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 20 Gauge

20 gauge: the TSS tube to start with

Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 20 Gauge

Turkey choke7.2out of 10

Carlson's TSS tube in 20 ga, a 0.555 in exit (0.565 in for Invector Plus) for 5 thread systems including Winchester/Browning Invector/Mossberg 500 and Remington, optimized for Federal Heavyweight TSS and backed by a lifetime warranty.

How the 7.2 score breaks down
Load compatibility (30%)
8
Constriction options (20%)
5
Thread fit coverage (20%)
7
Build & porting (15%)
8
Maker guidance (15%)
8

What the specs support

  • Carlson's says the Heavyweight TSS pairing makes TSS "ideal for .410, 20ga, and 12ga," and names the load it is tuned for.
  • Covers the 20 ga Mossberg 500 by name (Win/Browning Inv/Moss 500 20ga, item 38008).
  • Lifetime warranty; made in the USA.

Where it falls short

  • One exit diameter per thread.
  • Rated for 7-9 TSS shot; no lead load named.
  • Only 5 thread systems in 20 ga.

Skip this if…

…you shoot lead in your 20 gauge; this tube is built for 7-9 TSS shot, and Carlson's Long Beard 20 ga is the maker's lead-load option.

$49.33$56.50−13%View on Amazon

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Kick's Gobblin' Thunder Turkey Choke Tube, 20 Gauge

20 gauge: ported, rated for lead and TSS

Kick's Gobblin' Thunder Turkey Choke Tube, 20 Gauge

Turkey choke8.7out of 10

The 20 ga version of Kick's extended, ported 17-4 stainless turkey tube, rated by Kick's for lead, TSS and other non-toxic loads, in 0.560 or 0.570 in exits across 12 thread versions.

How the 8.7 score breaks down
Load compatibility (30%)
10
Constriction options (20%)
6
Thread fit coverage (20%)
9
Build & porting (15%)
10
Maker guidance (15%)
8

What the specs support

  • Rated by Kick's for lead and TSS, which matters in 20 ga, where TSS is what stretches the range.
  • Two exit diameters (0.560 and 0.570 in) in the common threads.
  • 17-4 stainless, extended, ported and finger-tight (per Kick's).
  • Sold in 12 separate 20 ga thread versions.

Where it falls short

  • No warranty terms published.
  • Kick's lists an Invector 20 ga version but does not name the Mossberg 500 on its own site.
  • No weight published.

Skip this if…

…your 20 gauge is a Mossberg 500 and you want the maker to confirm the fit; Carlson's and Indian Creek both name the 20 ga Mossberg 500 on their charts, Kick's does not.

$52.90View on Amazon

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Carlson's Choke TubesNo image

.410: the TSS tube with two lengths

Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, .410

Turkey choke7.0out of 10

Carlson's .410-only TSS tube at 0.385 in for its Long Invector thread (which Carlson's says fits the Browning BPS/Citori, CVA Scout, Henry and Mossberg 500) and Short Invector thread (Stevens 301), plus a Beretta/Benelli Mobil version, optimized for Federal Heavyweight TSS.

How the 7.0 score breaks down
Load compatibility (30%)
8
Constriction options (20%)
5
Thread fit coverage (20%)
6
Build & porting (15%)
8
Maker guidance (15%)
8

What the specs support

  • A .410-specific TSS tube; Carlson's page names the Mossberg 500 .410 on the Long Invector version.
  • Tuned to Federal Heavyweight TSS, the load Carlson's calls ideal in .410.
  • Lifetime warranty; made in the USA.

Where it falls short

  • No .410 Remington 870 (Pro Bore) version, per Carlson's interchange guide.
  • One exit diameter per thread.
  • An Amazon listing labels item 38030 (Short Invector) as "Mossberg 500"; Carlson's own page puts the Mossberg 500 on the Long Invector (38032), so check the item number.

Skip this if…

…your .410 is a Remington 870; Carlson's interchange guide says it does not make that Pro Bore tube.

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Indian Creek Black Diamond Turkey Choke Tube, .410

.410: five thread models named

Indian Creek Black Diamond Turkey Choke Tube, .410

Turkey choke7.0out of 10

Indian Creek's ported, hand-tightened .410 turkey tube, offered at 0.385 and 0.390 in across five thread models that between them name the Stevens 301, Mossberg 500, CVA Scout, Henry, Rossi, TriStar and Yildiz, rated for lead and hybrid heavy loads from #2 through #10 shot.

How the 7.0 score breaks down
Load compatibility (30%)
7
Constriction options (20%)
6
Thread fit coverage (20%)
8
Build & porting (15%)
6
Maker guidance (15%)
8

What the specs support

  • Two exit diameters, 0.385 and 0.390 in, so a disappointing pattern board does not mean changing brands.
  • Five thread models, and the fitment table names the two guns most first-season .410 hunters own: the Stevens 301 (#0041) and the Mossberg 500 (#0046).
  • Ported and hand-tightened, with a published 40-yard patterning process behind it.

Where it falls short

  • Not rated for TSS by Indian Creek, which is awkward in a bore where tungsten is the only load worth shooting.
  • Material not named anywhere on the .410 page.
  • Amazon listings label the .410 tubes "Black Diamond" while Indian Creek's own page title is ".410 Turkey Choke Tubes" under the Black Diamond Strike line, so match the model number, not the listing title.

Skip this if…

…you want the maker's own page to say the tube is rated for TSS before you load tungsten through it; Carlson's and Primos both do and Indian Creek does not.

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How we picked this

Scored on the specs that decide your season

Every pick is read off the maker's own specs, materials and instructions, then scored on a public rubric built around a first-season hunter: the sounds a call is made to produce and how it holds up in rain, a choke's load ratings and thread chart, the weights, pockets and seat heights you carry all morning. Each figure links straight to the page it came from, so you can check any pick in one click.

Scores come from that documented research with fixed bands, and prices come live from Amazon with the date they were checked. Commissions never set a score or decide a pick. The rubric and its bands are published.

Corrections & updates

  • First published. Pellet-count figures from the NWTF, density figures from Apex Ammunition, youth-gauge guidance from the Missouri Department of Conservation.

Questions

Frequently asked

Is a .410 or 20 gauge better for turkey hunting?
Can a .410 kill a turkey at 40 yards?
Is a 20 gauge enough for turkey?
Does a .410 need a special choke for turkey?
What shot size for a .410 turkey load?
Which gauge is best for a kid's first turkey?

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Sources

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