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TSS vs Lead Turkey Loads: What a First-Season Hunter Needs to Know

Tungsten Super Shot is denser than lead, so a smaller pellet still carries. Lead costs less and has been killing gobblers for a century. Here is what the load makers publish, what it means for your choke, and what nobody can tell you without patterning your own gun.

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The contenders

Side by side

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    Best for a TSS shooter

    Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge

    Turkey choke7.4out of 10

    A TSS tube that Carlson's says is "optimized for Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS Turkey Loads," made in the USA with a lifetime warranty and sold in 8 thread systems, each with one fixed exit diameter between 0.640 and 0.675 in.

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    Best for premium lead loads

    Carlson's Long Beard Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge

    Turkey choke7.1out of 10

    A lead-load tube Carlson's says was "specially designed to produce the best patterns when shooting Winchester's New Long Beard Turkey loads," with one exit diameter per thread (0.660 in for the Mossberg 500 and Remington versions) and a lifetime warranty.

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    Best for shooting both

    Kick's Gobblin' Thunder Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge

    Turkey choke9.3out of 10

    An extended, diagonally ported 17-4 PH stainless turkey tube that Kick's says "can be safely used with lead, TSS, or other non-toxic loads," sold in 19 separate 12 ga thread versions with up to 6 exit diameters in one thread (Invector Plus, 0.655 to 0.685 in).

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This is the first real fork in the guns and loads section: the box of shells you buy decides the shot size you shoot, the choke you screw in and, honestly, how much you spend before opening day. We cannot sell you ammunition here, and we have not fired any of it. What follows is what Federal, Winchester, Apex and the choke makers publish, plus what a state wildlife agency and the National Wild Turkey Federation say about the distances involved.

The verdict

TSS vs lead, side by side

Every figure below is quoted from the page named in it, read 2026-09-22. Nothing here is our own measurement.
What you are comparingLead turkey loadsTSS (Tungsten Super Shot)
Published density11.34 g/cc (Apex Ammunition)18 g/cc (Federal); 18.1 g/cc tungsten alloy (Apex) — Federal calls it “56 percent more than lead”
Shot sizes the makers listNo. 4, 5 and 6 (Missouri Dept. of Conservation; Winchester lists Long Beard XR in 12 ga No. 4, 5 and 6)No. 7 to No. 9 (Carlson's writes its TSS tube for “smaller shot size 7-9”; Winchester's TSS talk is about No. 9)
Example pellet count, 12 ga 2 ozAbout 340 pellets, No. 5 lead (JJ Reich, writing for the NWTF)About 717 pellets, No. 9 TSS (same article); Federal says certain payloads exceed 800 pellets
What the maker claims about rangeWinchester: Long Beard XR “exceeds performance of standard lead loads beyond 50 yards”Federal: “lethal range well past 50 yards, depending on the specific gun and choke”
Choke you needAny turkey tube the maker rates for lead (Carlson's Long Beard, Carlson's Extended Turkey, Primos Tight Wad, Indian Creek Strike)A tube the maker rates for TSS (Carlson's TSS Turkey, Primos TSS, Kick's Gobblin' Thunder)
Cost, in the makers' own wordsWinchester sells Long Beard XR as “the knockdown power of popular heavier-than-lead loads at a fraction of the cost”The premium option — that Winchester line is a direct admission that tungsten loads cost more

Two things are missing from that table on purpose. There is no recoil column, because none of the load makers we read publishes recoil figures for turkey shells. And there is no “effective range” column with a single number in it, because that number belongs to your gun. We come back to both below.

What TSS actually is

TSS stands for Tungsten Super Shot. Apex Ammunition describes it as “a 18.1 g/cc density tungsten alloy” and puts lead at 11.34 g/cc and steel at 7.86 g/cc on the same page. Federal publishes its HEAVYWEIGHT TSS at 18 g/cc and says the density is “56 percent more than lead.”

That density is the whole argument. Apex puts it plainly: “when the density is increased, the shot size can be reduced without losing knockdown performance.” Federal says the same thing from the other direction — high-density TSS “allows the use of smaller shot for more than 800 pellets in certain payloads.” The NWTF, writing about .410 shotguns, goes further: “a No. 9 HEAVYWEIGHT TSS pellet carries at least as much penetration energy as a No. 5 lead pellet at all ranges.”

Be careful with the word tungsten, though. It does not always mean TSS. Winchester's Long Beard Tungsten is “optimized with 17g/cc tungsten shot,” and Boss lists its Boss TOM turkey loads under “Copper-Plated Tungsten.” Those are tungsten blends, not the 18 g/cc alloy. If the density matters to your choice, read the number on the maker's page rather than the word on the box.

Pellet count: the number that decides it

Turkey shooting is not about one pellet. It is about how many land in a circle the size of a gobbler's head and neck. Mississippi State University Extension states the working standard: “A standard ‘acceptable’ pellet count in a 10-inch circle at 40 yards is 100 holes.” Apex publishes the same rule of thumb.

This is also why TSS shooters use shot sizes that look absurd to anyone raised on No. 4 lead. Shot-size choice by gauge and load is its own subject, and it lives on our guide to what size shot for turkey, with a cited table by gauge.

What lead still does well

Nothing about TSS makes lead stop working. Federal calls the classic 3-inch 12-gauge 1 3/4-ounce load of No. 6 shot “a proven gobbler killer” on its own load-selection page, and the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation tells turkey hunters that “smaller shot, no. 4, 5, and 6, work better than larger shot, due to denser shot patterns.”

The premium lead lane is worth knowing about too. Winchester's Long Beard XR is copper-plated lead using what Winchester calls Shot-Lok Technology, and Winchester claims “twice the number of pellets in a 10-inch circle out to 60 yards compared to traditional lead turkey loads.” Carlson's built a whole choke line around it. So the real menu is three wide, not two: standard lead, premium plated lead, and TSS.

Range claims, and what to do with them

Every range number you will read comes from someone selling something. Federal says TSS has a “lethal range well past 50 yards, depending on the specific gun and choke.” Winchester's product manager, in Winchester's own announcement of Long Beard TSS, says a 12-gauge No. 9 TSS load puts “over 8 times the pellets into a 10-inch circle at 60 yards when compared to traditional lead #5s” and calls it “a legitimate 60-yard plus turkey load all day, every day.”

Now set that beside a wildlife agency with nothing to sell. Missouri's conservation department writes: “Shooting at a turkey at more than 40 yards is not recommended, regardless of which gauge shotgun is used.” Both statements are honest inside their own frame. A load can be capable at 60 yards on paper while a 60-yard shot in the woods is still a bad idea — you misjudge distance, the bird moves, and a wounded turkey walks off.

The way out of the argument is paper. Pattern your own gun with the exact shell you will hunt, count the holes in a 10-inch circle at 40 yards, and let that decide your limit. We work through the distance question in detail on how far you can shoot a turkey.

Your choke has to be rated for it

This is the part beginners miss, and it is the part that costs money. A turkey choke is a tube with a specific exit diameter, cut and rated by its maker for particular loads. The makers do not all say the same thing:

  • Carlson's TSS Turkey is, in Carlson's words, “optimized for Federal Premium® Heavyweight® TSS Turkey Loads but also work exceptionally well with other manufacturer's turkey ammunition (Smaller shot size 7-9).” Carlson's names no lead turkey load for it.
  • Carlson's Long Beard was “specially designed to produce the best patterns when shooting Winchester's New Long Beard Turkey loads.” It is a lead tube; Carlson's does not rate it for TSS.
  • Kick's Gobblin' Thunder is the one in this trio that covers both: Kick's writes that its chokes “can be safely used with lead, TSS, or other non-toxic loads.”
  • Indian Creek takes a fourth position, and it is a fair one: “If you are considering TSS shells, check the shell manufacturers' website (i.e. Nitro, Apex, Federal) for their recommendations with our choke tubes.”

If you already know you are going the tungsten route, start with our TSS choke picks. If you are shopping the whole field, our best turkey chokes ranks lead-rated and TSS-rated tubes together.

The three tubes, side by side

EvidenceCarlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 12 GaugeCarlson's Long Beard Turkey Choke Tube, 12 GaugeKick's Gobblin' Thunder Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge
Rated loadsOptimized for Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS; "also work exceptionally well with other manufacturer's turkey ammunition (Smaller shot size 7-9)"; no steel shot larger than #4, no slugs, sabots, rifled slugs or 00/000 buckshotDesigned for Winchester Long Beard (Shot-Lok) lead turkey loads; no steel shot larger than #4, no slugs, sabots, rifled slugs or 00/000 buckshot"Can be safely used with lead, TSS, or other non-toxic loads"; Kick's says sizes are "labeled based on the pattern performance you can expect with high-density turkey loads"
ConstrictionOne exit diameter per thread: 0.640 in (Win/Browning Inv/Moss 500 item 38005, Remington 38000, Mobil 38010, Retay 38027), 0.650 in (Invector Plus 38021, Crio Plus 38015), 0.665 in (Invector DS 38025), 0.675 in (Mossberg 835/935 38020)One per thread: 0.660 in (Win/Browning Inv/Moss 500 item 70100; Remington item 70120), 0.665 in (Invector Plus item 70140), 0.683 in (Mossberg 835/935 item 70160)Varies by thread: Invector Plus 0.655, 0.665, 0.670, 0.675, 0.680, 0.685 in; Invector 0.655, 0.660, 0.665, 0.670, 0.675 in; Remington 0.655, 0.660, 0.665, 0.670 in; Mossberg Ultimag 0.670, 0.675, 0.680, 0.685 in
Choke system8 thread versions: Winchester/Browning Invector/Mossberg 500, Remington, Mossberg 835/935, Browning Invector Plus (Winchester SX-series), Browning Invector DS, Beretta/Benelli Mobil, Benelli Crio Plus, Retay9 thread versions: Win/Browning Invector/Mossberg 500, Remington, Remington Pro Bore, Mossberg 835/935, Browning Invector Plus, Browning Invector DS, Beretta Optima HP, Beretta/Benelli Mobil, Benelli Crio Plus19 separate 12 ga versions on Kick's store: Invector, Invector Plus, Invector DS, Remington, Remington Pro Bore, Remington Spartan, Mossberg Ultimag (835/935), Mobilchoke, Benelli Crio Plus, Beretta Optima HP, Beretta Optima Plus, Retay, CZ (two versions), Baikal, Tru-Choke, Fabarm Tribore HP, ATA Venza, Ruger
Material17-4 PH stainless steel (Carlson's states its choke tubes are made from it)17-4 PH stainless steel per Carlson's (Amazon listing titles for this line say "Blued Steel"; the maker's statement is used)Premium 17-4 PH stainless steel (per Kick's)
WarrantyLifetime; mail a damaged tube back for a replacement (per Carlson's)Lifetime ("backed by a LIFETIME WARRANTY")Not published (Kick's "Our Guarantee" page shows no warranty terms)
Score7.4/107.1/109.3/10
Read from each maker's own pages on 2026-09-22. Every value links to its source; a dash means the maker does not publish it. Scores use the choke rubric on our methodology page.

Scores are computed from those published specs using the bands we publish at how we pick. They are not pattern results. No maker in this set publishes pattern counts for an individual tube, so nobody here earns a top mark for guidance.

The honest word on cost

We do not print prices, because prices move. What we can do is quote the makers. Winchester markets Long Beard XR as delivering “the knockdown power of popular heavier-than-lead loads at a fraction of the cost.” That is Winchester telling you, in its own advertising, that tungsten loads are the expensive ones. Everything published about TSS — the density, the pellet counts, the smaller shot sizes — comes with that price attached.

There is a practical consequence. Patterning burns shells: Carlson's recommends shooting a three-to-five target average, and Mississippi State's guide has you counting holes on several sheets of paper. If you buy the most expensive shells you can find and then skip patterning because you do not want to waste them, you have bought the wrong thing. A cheaper load you have proved on paper beats a premium load you have not.

In detail

The contenders, in full

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Best for a TSS shooter

Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge

Turkey choke7.4out of 10

A TSS tube that Carlson's says is "optimized for Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS Turkey Loads," made in the USA with a lifetime warranty and sold in 8 thread systems, each with one fixed exit diameter between 0.640 and 0.675 in.

How the 7.4 score breaks down
Load compatibility (30%)
8
Constriction options (20%)
5
Thread fit coverage (20%)
8
Build & porting (15%)
8
Maker guidance (15%)
8

What the specs support

  • Carlson's names the load it is built for (Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS), which takes the guesswork out of a first TSS purchase.
  • Lifetime warranty and made in the USA (per Carlson's).
  • Sold for 8 thread systems, including the Mossberg 500, Remington, Mossberg 835/935, Benelli and Beretta.
  • Carlson's publishes patterning instructions: a target that holds a 30 in circle, starting at 40 yards.

Where it falls short

  • One exit diameter per thread, so you cannot step tighter or looser within this model.
  • Carlson's ties it to 7-9 TSS shot and names no lead turkey load for it.
  • No Remington Pro Bore version (Carlson's lists the 870 Bone Collector, Versa Max and others as Pro Bore guns).

Skip this if…

…you plan to shoot lead turkey loads such as Winchester Long Beard XR; Carlson's builds its Long Beard choke for those.

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Best for premium lead loads

Carlson's Long Beard Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge

Turkey choke7.1out of 10

A lead-load tube Carlson's says was "specially designed to produce the best patterns when shooting Winchester's New Long Beard Turkey loads," with one exit diameter per thread (0.660 in for the Mossberg 500 and Remington versions) and a lifetime warranty.

How the 7.1 score breaks down
Load compatibility (30%)
7
Constriction options (20%)
5
Thread fit coverage (20%)
8
Build & porting (15%)
8
Maker guidance (15%)
8

What the specs support

  • Built around one named lead load, Winchester Long Beard, so a beginner knows which box of shells to buy with it.
  • Sold in Remington Pro Bore, which Carlson's TSS line is not (Carlson's lists the 870 Bone Collector under Pro Bore).
  • Lifetime warranty; made in the USA.

Where it falls short

  • Carlson's does not rate it for TSS.
  • One exit diameter per thread.
  • Carlson's performance figures ("10% greater penetration over standard lead shot at distances of more than 50 yards") describe the choke-and-load pairing, not the tube alone.

Skip this if…

…you plan to shoot TSS; Carlson's makes a separate TSS Turkey tube optimized for Federal Heavyweight TSS.

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Best for shooting both

Kick's Gobblin' Thunder Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge

Turkey choke9.3out of 10

An extended, diagonally ported 17-4 PH stainless turkey tube that Kick's says "can be safely used with lead, TSS, or other non-toxic loads," sold in 19 separate 12 ga thread versions with up to 6 exit diameters in one thread (Invector Plus, 0.655 to 0.685 in).

How the 9.3 score breaks down
Load compatibility (30%)
10
Constriction options (20%)
9
Thread fit coverage (20%)
9
Build & porting (15%)
10
Maker guidance (15%)
8

What the specs support

  • Kick's rates it for lead, TSS and other non-toxic loads, so the same tube works whether your first box of shells is lead or TSS.
  • Up to 6 exit diameters in a single thread (Invector Plus: 0.655 to 0.685 in), the widest choice in this lineup.
  • 17-4 PH stainless, extended and ported, and Kick's says it goes in and out by hand with no wrench.
  • Kick's publishes a choke selector tool for matching a size to your gun and load.

Where it falls short

  • Kick's publishes no warranty terms.
  • Some Kick's product pages are marked non-returnable (the Invector Plus 12G page says "NO RETURNS OR EXCHANGES ON THIS ITEM"), so confirm your thread before ordering.
  • No weight is published.

Skip this if…

…you want a published warranty; Kick's shows no warranty terms, while Carlson's and Patternmaster publish lifetime coverage.

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Buy TSS if / buy lead if

Shoot TSS if

  • You hunt with a 20 gauge, 28 gauge or .410. Density is what makes the small gauges work.
  • You want the highest pellet count published — Federal lists more than 800 pellets in certain payloads.
  • You hunt where non-toxic shot is required, and you have confirmed the rule with your state agency.
  • You are willing to buy a TSS-rated choke and spend shells proving the pattern.

Shoot lead if

  • You carry a 12 gauge and expect shots inside 40 yards, which is what Missouri's agency recommends anyway.
  • You want to pattern generously without flinching at the cost of each shell.
  • Your state restricts shot size in a way that rules out the fine shot TSS depends on.
  • You want the widest choice of chokes: most turkey tubes are rated for lead and HEVI-Shot-type loads.

Buy a tube rated for both if

  • You want to try TSS later without buying a second choke. Kick's Gobblin' Thunder is rated by Kick's for lead, TSS and other non-toxic loads.
  • You share the gun, or you shoot lead at the range and carry TSS on opening morning.
  • You accept the trade: Kick's publishes no warranty terms, while Carlson's covers its tubes for life.

Do not decide on this page alone

Whatever you buy, the last step is the same one: shoot it at paper at 40 yards, count the holes in a 10-inch circle, and hunt inside the distance that count supports.

How we picked this

Gear we claim to have field-tested: none

Plenty of turkey sites say they ran every call on the list all spring. We don't say that, and we say so on every page. What we do instead: read each maker's published specs, materials and instructions; note the sounds a maker says a call makes and how it says the call handles rain; check a choke's load ratings and thread chart; compare published weights, pockets and seat heights; and score all of it on a published rubric built around a first-season hunter. Every spec links to where it came from.

Scores are computed from that documented research with fixed bands, not field trials. Commissions never set a score or decide a pick. The rubric and its bands are published.

Corrections & updates

  • First published. Specs read from maker pages 2026-09-22.

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Sources

We don't claim to have field-tested, owned or hunted with the products on this page. Specs come from the maker's own product pages and manuals (or a named dealer's copy when the maker's site blocked us), sound and performance claims are attributed to the maker, and any third-party observation is attributed to whoever made it. Amazon prices change often, so we don't print them. Where a figure isn't published, we say so and it earns the lowest band. Read the full method.

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