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Turkey choke vs full choke: what the .015 inch between them actually does

Both tubes fit the same barrel and cost wildly different money. The difference is one published number, and it decides whether your pattern is a fist or a dinner plate at 40 yards.

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The contenders

Side by side

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    The turkey choke

    Kick's Gobblin' Thunder Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge

    Turkey choke9.3out of 10

    An extended, diagonally ported 17-4 PH stainless turkey tube that Kick's says "can be safely used with lead, TSS, or other non-toxic loads," sold in 19 separate 12 ga thread versions with up to 6 exit diameters in one thread (Invector Plus, 0.655 to 0.685 in).

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    The full choke

    Carlson's Flush Mount Replacement Full Choke Tube, Win/Browning Inv/Moss 500, 12 Gauge

    Turkey choke7.8out of 10

    A plain 17-4 stainless Full choke at 0.700 in, item 52215 - the cheapest tube in this registry, the right answer for ducks over decoys or a rabbit in thick cover, and 0.020 in too open to be a turkey choke.

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    How tight a turkey tube gets

    Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge

    Turkey choke7.4out of 10

    A TSS tube that Carlson's says is "optimized for Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS Turkey Loads," made in the USA with a lifetime warranty and sold in 8 thread systems, each with one fixed exit diameter between 0.640 and 0.675 in.

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The short verdict

Nobody here has patterned either tube. This page compares what the makers publish — constriction values, exit diameters, load ratings, materials and warranties — against the choke rubric in our published scoring method. If you are still working out what constriction means, read what choke to use for turkey hunting first, or start at the guns and loads hub.

Side by side, on published numbers only

All three of these tubes thread into the same Winchester / Browning Invector / Mossberg 500 barrel. Every value links to the page it came from; a dash means the maker does not publish it.

EvidenceKick's Gobblin' Thunder Turkey Choke Tube, 12 GaugeCarlson's Flush Mount Replacement Full Choke Tube, Win/Browning Inv/Moss 500, 12 GaugeCarlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge
Choke system19 separate 12 ga versions on Kick's store: Invector, Invector Plus, Invector DS, Remington, Remington Pro Bore, Remington Spartan, Mossberg Ultimag (835/935), Mobilchoke, Benelli Crio Plus, Beretta Optima HP, Beretta Optima Plus, Retay, CZ (two versions), Baikal, Tru-Choke, Fabarm Tribore HP, ATA Venza, RugerWIN/Browning Invector/Mossberg 500 thread; Carlson's notes the Winchester SX-2, SX-3, SX-4 and SXP take Invector Plus tubes instead8 thread versions: Winchester/Browning Invector/Mossberg 500, Remington, Mossberg 835/935, Browning Invector Plus (Winchester SX-series), Browning Invector DS, Beretta/Benelli Mobil, Benelli Crio Plus, Retay
ConstrictionVaries by thread: Invector Plus 0.655, 0.665, 0.670, 0.675, 0.680, 0.685 in; Invector 0.655, 0.660, 0.665, 0.670, 0.675 in; Remington 0.655, 0.660, 0.665, 0.670 in; Mossberg Ultimag 0.670, 0.675, 0.680, 0.685 in0.700 in Full. The same page sells Improved Modified at 0.705 in (52214), Modified at 0.710 in (52213) and a Turkey constriction at 0.680 in (59891)One exit diameter per thread: 0.640 in (Win/Browning Inv/Moss 500 item 38005, Remington 38000, Mobil 38010, Retay 38027), 0.650 in (Invector Plus 38021, Crio Plus 38015), 0.665 in (Invector DS 38025), 0.675 in (Mossberg 835/935 38020)
Rated loads"Can be safely used with lead, TSS, or other non-toxic loads"; Kick's says sizes are "labeled based on the pattern performance you can expect with high-density turkey loads""Steel, Lead, & Hevi-Shot may be used in all constrictions"; "No Steel shot larger than #BB or speeds exceeding 1550 fps should be used in choke tubes tighter than full"; no steel shot larger than #4 in the Turkey constrictionOptimized for Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS; "also work exceptionally well with other manufacturer's turkey ammunition (Smaller shot size 7-9)"; no steel shot larger than #4, no slugs, sabots, rifled slugs or 00/000 buckshot
MaterialPremium 17-4 PH stainless steel (per Kick's)17-4 heat-treated stainless steel17-4 PH stainless steel (Carlson's states its choke tubes are made from it)
FeaturesExtended, diagonally ported design for recoil reduction; "easy to install and remove with your fingers," no special wrench; Invector Plus version 3 5/16 in overall with a 1 1/2 in ported sectionSits flush with the muzzle - nothing to knock, nothing to unscrew by hand; Carlson's publishes Full as .030 in of constriction against Turkey at .045 in or moreMade in the USA; no porting or extension length published on the TSS product page
WarrantyNot published (Kick's "Our Guarantee" page shows no warranty terms)Lifetime (per Carlson's)Lifetime; mail a damaged tube back for a replacement (per Carlson's)
Score9.3/107.8/107.4/10
One turkey tube rated for lead and TSS, one plain Full choke, and a tungsten-specific turkey tube - all in the same 12 ga thread.

What each name actually means

Choke names are not marketing. They are amounts of constriction, measured as how much narrower the choke's exit is than the barrel's bore. Carlson's publishes the whole ladder on its choke tube information page, and it reads like this.

Carlson's published constriction values, in inches of constriction (not exit diameter).
ChokeConstriction
Cylinder.000
Skeet.005
Improved Cylinder.010
Light Modified.015
Modified.020
Improved Modified.025
Full.030
Extra Full.040
Turkey.045 or more

So a turkey choke is not a different species of tube. It is at least .015 in tighter than Full, and often more. Full is the tightest of the general-purpose chokes; Turkey sits a rung and a half past the end of that ladder, past Extra Full.

Same gun, same thread, two different jobs

This is easiest to see when one maker sells both tubes for one gun. On Carlson's flush mount replacement page for the Winchester / Browning Invector / Mossberg 500 thread, the constrictions are published as exit diameters: Modified 0.710 in, Improved Modified 0.705 in, Full 0.700 in and a Turkey constriction at 0.680 in. Move up to Carlson's dedicated turkey lines in that same thread and it keeps tightening: the Extended Turkey runs 0.640 to 0.680 in, and the TSS Turkey tube is a single 0.640 in.

That is the whole argument in one row of numbers. From Full to a TSS turkey tube in the same barrel is 0.060 in of exit diameter. Nothing else about the gun changes.

What that .015 to .060 inch does to the pattern

A tighter exit holds the shot column together for longer, so the pattern opens later and there are more pellets in the middle of it where you aimed. That matters for turkeys more than for any other bird, because the target is not the bird. The NWTF puts the killing area of a gobbler at roughly 4 square inches of head and neck, and the standard every choke and load is judged against is a count inside a 10 in circle at 40 yards. Mississippi State University Extension sets the bar at 100 holes in a 10 in circle at 40 yards.

Neither Carlson's nor Kick's publishes a head-to-head Full-versus-Turkey pattern count, so we will not invent one. What Kick's does publish for its turkey tube is a claim it is prepared to print: the Gobblin' Thunder “dependably delivers a 14-16 in pattern at 40 yards.” A general-purpose Full choke carries no such claim, because holding a 14 in pattern at 40 yards is not what it was cut to do.

When a Full choke is genuinely enough

Plenty of turkeys have been killed with Full chokes, and they were killed close. Three situations where the Full tube in your drawer is a defensible choice:

  • Thick timber, short sight lines. If you cannot see 30 yards, you are not shooting 40. A more open tube is more forgiving of a bird that steps into your lap.
  • Good plated lead in #4, #5 or #6. A buffered, copper-plated turkey load does some of the work a tighter tube would otherwise do.
  • A first season on a borrowed gun. Spend the money on shells and a pattern board before you spend it on a tube. You will learn more from twenty rounds on paper than from a new choke.

One condition applies to all three: prove it. Carlson's patterning instruction is to use a target that will hold a 30 in circle, start at 40 yards, and average three to five targets. Do that with the Full choke and your actual shells, then draw a 10 in circle around the densest part and count. Our walkthrough is how to pattern a turkey gun.

When it is not enough

Past about 25 yards, the case for a Full choke falls apart, and the reason is arithmetic rather than opinion. You are trying to land enough pellets in 4 square inches of neck to break it. Every yard of extra distance spreads the same number of pellets over more area, and the choke is the only part of the gun you can change to slow that down.

There is also the legal floor to respect. Missouri's conservation department, writing for new turkey hunters, says plainly that “shooting at a turkey at more than 40 yards is not recommended, regardless of which gauge shotgun is used.” Nobody is arguing a Full choke gets you past 40. The argument is whether it gets you reliably to 35, and no maker publishes a number that says it does.

The opposite mistake: too tight for the shot you get

A turkey choke is not free of downside, and the NWTF says so in one sentence: “With today's ultra-tight chokes, shooting a turkey closer than 20 steps can be tough.” The same article describes a pattern the size of a quarter at 11 steps and a gobbler that walked away untouched. Its recommendation is a window rather than a maximum: “Ideally, try to shoot turkeys at 20 to 40 yards, where you're sure to have a good, thick pattern.”

So pattern your turkey tube at 20 and 30 yards as well as 40. A tube that prints a fist-sized pattern at 15 yards is a tube you have to aim like a rifle. That is the real trade the .045 in buys you, and it is worth knowing before a bird is at ten steps rather than after.

What each one costs

The price gap is the reason this question gets asked at all. On Carlson's own store, read 2026-09-28: the flush Full tube is $27.50. Kick's charges $72 for the black Gobblin' Thunder and $82 for camo. Carlson's TSS Turkey tube is $66.95. A dedicated turkey choke is two to three times the money.

It is still the cheapest meaningful upgrade a turkey gun gets, and it is cheaper than one box of tungsten shells. If the budget only stretches to one of the two, and you are buying tungsten anyway, buy the turkey tube that the shell maker's choke partner names for those shells — our TSS choke picks cover that lane.

How to decide in your own barrel, in one afternoon

  1. Buy the shells first. The tube follows the shell, not the other way round. See best turkey loads for a 12 gauge.
  2. Shoot the Full choke you already own at 40 yards, three to five targets, and count the holes in a 10 in circle around the centre of the pattern.
  3. Compare that count to 100. If you are close, the Full tube plus a shorter self-imposed range is a real option. If you are nowhere near, that is your answer.
  4. Buy one turkey tube, not three. Match it to your shells: lead points at Kick's Gobblin' Thunder or Carlson's Extended Turkey, tungsten at Carlson's TSS Turkey.
  5. Re-pattern at 20, 30 and 40 yards. A new tube usually moves your point of impact, and you want to know where the close pattern sits.

If the gun itself is not bought yet, start at choosing your first turkey gun instead. The choke is the last decision in that sequence, not the first.

In detail

The contenders, in full

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The turkey choke

Kick's Gobblin' Thunder Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge

Turkey choke9.3out of 10

An extended, diagonally ported 17-4 PH stainless turkey tube that Kick's says "can be safely used with lead, TSS, or other non-toxic loads," sold in 19 separate 12 ga thread versions with up to 6 exit diameters in one thread (Invector Plus, 0.655 to 0.685 in).

How the 9.3 score breaks down
Load compatibility (30%)
10
Constriction options (20%)
9
Thread fit coverage (20%)
9
Build & porting (15%)
10
Maker guidance (15%)
8

What the specs support

  • Kick's rates it for lead, TSS and other non-toxic loads, so the same tube works whether your first box of shells is lead or TSS.
  • Up to 6 exit diameters in a single thread (Invector Plus: 0.655 to 0.685 in), the widest choice in this lineup.
  • 17-4 PH stainless, extended and ported, and Kick's says it goes in and out by hand with no wrench.
  • Kick's publishes a choke selector tool for matching a size to your gun and load.

Where it falls short

  • Kick's publishes no warranty terms.
  • Some Kick's product pages are marked non-returnable (the Invector Plus 12G page says "NO RETURNS OR EXCHANGES ON THIS ITEM"), so confirm your thread before ordering.
  • No weight is published.

Skip this if…

…you want a published warranty; Kick's shows no warranty terms, while Carlson's and Patternmaster publish lifetime coverage.

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The full choke

Carlson's Flush Mount Replacement Full Choke Tube, Win/Browning Inv/Moss 500, 12 Gauge

Turkey choke7.8out of 10

A plain 17-4 stainless Full choke at 0.700 in, item 52215 - the cheapest tube in this registry, the right answer for ducks over decoys or a rabbit in thick cover, and 0.020 in too open to be a turkey choke.

How the 7.8 score breaks down
Load compatibility (30%)
8
Constriction options (20%)
6
Thread fit coverage (20%)
9
Build & porting (15%)
8
Maker guidance (15%)
8

What the specs support

  • $27.50 on Carlson's own store when read 2026-09-28, roughly a third of a dedicated turkey tube.
  • Rated for steel as well as lead and HEVI-Shot, so it doubles for ducks and small game.
  • 17-4 heat-treated stainless with a lifetime warranty.
  • Flush fitting, so nothing protrudes to catch on brush or a gun case.

Where it falls short

  • At 0.700 in it is 0.020 in more open than Carlson's own Turkey constriction in the same thread, and 0.060 in more open than its TSS turkey tube.
  • Not built or marketed for turkey patterns: Carlson's publishes Full as .030 in of constriction and Turkey as .045 in or more.
  • No porting, so nothing is done about recoil.

Skip this if…

…you are buying a tube to shoot a turkey past 25 yards; a Full choke's pattern at 40 yards is the reason dedicated turkey tubes exist.

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How tight a turkey tube gets

Carlson's TSS Turkey Choke Tube, 12 Gauge

Turkey choke7.4out of 10

A TSS tube that Carlson's says is "optimized for Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS Turkey Loads," made in the USA with a lifetime warranty and sold in 8 thread systems, each with one fixed exit diameter between 0.640 and 0.675 in.

How the 7.4 score breaks down
Load compatibility (30%)
8
Constriction options (20%)
5
Thread fit coverage (20%)
8
Build & porting (15%)
8
Maker guidance (15%)
8

What the specs support

  • Carlson's names the load it is built for (Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS), which takes the guesswork out of a first TSS purchase.
  • Lifetime warranty and made in the USA (per Carlson's).
  • Sold for 8 thread systems, including the Mossberg 500, Remington, Mossberg 835/935, Benelli and Beretta.
  • Carlson's publishes patterning instructions: a target that holds a 30 in circle, starting at 40 yards.

Where it falls short

  • One exit diameter per thread, so you cannot step tighter or looser within this model.
  • Carlson's ties it to 7-9 TSS shot and names no lead turkey load for it.
  • No Remington Pro Bore version (Carlson's lists the 870 Bone Collector, Versa Max and others as Pro Bore guns).

Skip this if…

…you plan to shoot lead turkey loads such as Winchester Long Beard XR; Carlson's builds its Long Beard choke for those.

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How we picked this

Gear we claim to have field-tested: none

Plenty of turkey sites say they ran every call on the list all spring. We don't say that, and we say so on every page. What we do instead: read each maker's published specs, materials and instructions; note the sounds a maker says a call makes and how it says the call handles rain; check a choke's load ratings and thread chart; compare published weights, pockets and seat heights; and score all of it on a published rubric built around a first-season hunter. Every spec links to where it came from.

Scores are computed from that documented research with fixed bands, not field trials. Commissions never set a score or decide a pick. The rubric and its bands are published.

Corrections & updates

  • First published. Constrictions and prices read from maker pages 2026-09-28.

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We don't claim to have field-tested, owned or hunted with the products on this page. Specs come from the maker's own product pages and manuals (or a named dealer's copy when the maker's site blocked us), sound and performance claims are attributed to the maker, and any third-party observation is attributed to whoever made it. Amazon prices change often, so we don't print them. Where a figure isn't published, we say so and it earns the lowest band. Read the full method.

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